Comments on: More “Used game sales are ruining us” talk http://www.blog.last-save.com/2008/11/more-used-game-sales-are-ruining-us-talk/ make that save roll! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:35:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous gamedev in training http://www.blog.last-save.com/2008/11/more-used-game-sales-are-ruining-us-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-190 Anonymous gamedev in training Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:41:41 +0000 http://www.blog.last-save.com/?p=175#comment-190 I think both taking away content for ridiculous reasons (like you haven't paid the devs in addition to the person you bought it from second-hand), and even the Spore drm is great. I don't intend to troll, but my hopes are one day to make and sell games, and if I don't treat my customers like criminals and/or retards, but my competitors do, I will most likely experience much better sales. That is, if my games are good enough to be worth buying in the first place. Sure, that logic leads to it being easier to pirate, but when the "best" drm takes no time to crack anyways, and ruins the experience of legitimate customers, I don't see what it gives me as a developer. Take Bethesda, they don't treat people like criminals, and thus, people buy their games. (also, their games are awesome) I think both taking away content for ridiculous reasons (like you haven’t paid the devs in addition to the person you bought it from second-hand), and even the Spore drm is great.

I don’t intend to troll, but my hopes are one day to make and sell games, and if I don’t treat my customers like criminals and/or retards, but my competitors do, I will most likely experience much better sales.
That is, if my games are good enough to be worth buying in the first place.

Sure, that logic leads to it being easier to pirate, but when the “best” drm takes no time to crack anyways, and ruins the experience of legitimate customers, I don’t see what it gives me as a developer.

Take Bethesda, they don’t treat people like criminals, and thus, people buy their games. (also, their games are awesome)

]]> By: A Gaming Moose http://www.blog.last-save.com/2008/11/more-used-game-sales-are-ruining-us-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-97 A Gaming Moose Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:49:53 +0000 http://www.blog.last-save.com/?p=175#comment-97 Exactly, and the solution ISN'T to take out any content and then charge people for it later. I also don't think the stuff like the exclusive maps for GoW2 will go over too well. I don't plan on buying that game NEW and definitely won't be buying it used. If i want to recoup some of my losses with a video game, I shouldn't have to worry about it being worthless cause of one time codes. Exactly, and the solution ISN’T to take out any content and then charge people for it later. I also don’t think the stuff like the exclusive maps for GoW2 will go over too well. I don’t plan on buying that game NEW and definitely won’t be buying it used.

If i want to recoup some of my losses with a video game, I shouldn’t have to worry about it being worthless cause of one time codes.

]]> By: Callum Howell http://www.blog.last-save.com/2008/11/more-used-game-sales-are-ruining-us-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-96 Callum Howell Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:05:10 +0000 http://www.blog.last-save.com/?p=175#comment-96 I agree with you there. If we buy a game, they get their money, and if that person completes it or doesn't like it, he's supposed to keep it? No. Of course not. That would be money wasted. So, the game developer has already got his money from one customer, and that customer wants his money back and (for example) the shop doesn't give refunds. He sells the game, second hand, and someone buys it. And big companies like EPIC etc. are still making sales from previous games. In EPICs case, Gears Of War 1. I agree with you there. If we buy a game, they get their money, and if that person completes it or doesn’t like it, he’s supposed to keep it? No. Of course not. That would be money wasted. So, the game developer has already got his money from one customer, and that customer wants his money back and (for example) the shop doesn’t give refunds. He sells the game, second hand, and someone buys it. And big companies like EPIC etc. are still making sales from previous games. In EPICs case, Gears Of War 1.

]]>